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TourismI just quit my job as a Flight Attendant; AMA

Aug 27th 2016 by adrianne456 • 15 Questions • 3897 Points

Floyd Norman is an animator, storyman, and troublemaker. But more importantly he is an official Disney Legend, honored by the company in 2007 with this title. Norman is the first Black artist at Disney, and has had a storied career working on Disney classics, as well as famed Saturday-morning cartoons, Pixar feature films, and more. At 81 years old, Norman is the focus of a new feature documentary out in theaters starting this Friday August 26th. "Floyd Norman: An Animated Life", reveals how Norman continues to impact animation and stir up "trouble" after the company forced him to retire at age 65. It's a tale of perseverance, and a love letter to the history of animation, as seen through the life of a one-of-a-kind man. Check out the trailer at www.FloydNormanMovie.com, and connect with us on Facebook at https://www.facebook.com/FloydNormanDocumentary.

Filmmaker Michael Fiore owns and operates Michael Fiore Films; a boutique production company that develops, finances, and creates high-concept filmed content for the best-of-the-best in the Film, TV, and Ad worlds. Fiore has worked as a writer/director and producer/editor for industry notables like Joel Silver (Prod. "The Matrix"), Jonathan Liebesman (Dir. "TNMT"), and Tom DiCillo (Dir. "Living in Oblivion") among others. Fiore has another movie coming out later this year, in December, titled "Keep Watching" from Sony Screen Gems. That film stars Bella Thorne and "Walking Dead" star Chandler Riggs.

Filmmaker Erik Sharkey is no stranger to the world of documentary. Sharkey's last feature documentary "Drew: The Man Behind the Poster" follows the creative endeavors of the legendary movie poster artist Drew Struzan. Prior to that documentary, Sharkey had directed a fun comedy titled "Sexina" starring the original Batman, Adam West. Sharkey is a born-and-bred New Yorker, with the accent to prove it!

https://www.facebook.com/FloydNormanDocumentary/photos/a.508279402712027.1073741828.508254702714497/580983308774969/?type=3&theater

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Do the flight crew know if an air marshal is onboard?

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Wow, Atlantis: The Lost Empire* is one of my most favorite movies of all time!

Is anything about the movie that most people don't know about?


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When did you become the first African-American to work there and how many are there now? Was it due to biases in the industry at the time or a result of a lack of animation interest in that community?

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Yes.


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It was a high concept film starting with the single image of the glowing Kida floating above the water

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I was the first black artist to work at Disney simply because I applied for the job and was able to qualify. Nobody was being kept out. If you were talented and ready to work, that was what mattered. Not the color of your skin. Keep in mind, Walt Disney Productions had minorities working at the studio as far back as the thirties. I know. I met a number of those artists during my career.


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Do they stand out to you? Meaning when you fly next would you be able to spot one?

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This image obsessed me when I was like 9 years old. Good job.


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What kind of storytelling advice did you learn from Walt Disney when you worked for him? I always got the impression that when it came to gags, Walt always stressed motivation and context--is that true?

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No, they look like regular people. You would never know


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Walt Disney was a great gag man. He loved gags. His daughter, Diane Disney Miller told me that. To the best of my knowledge, Walt never analyzed gags. Not in front of me anyway. He knew I was a gagster. He knew I did funny stuff. I never analyze why stuff is funny...it just is. Sure, I guess motivation and context are important. I'm sure it plays a part in the way I craft a gag.


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Did you ever see a Marshal take action?

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What is the most difficult to animate? Human body? Animals? Weather event?


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What is your favourite thing you have animated or created in your lifetime?

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No. It has to be something beyond major for them to actual react for various reasons.

like, major major


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I find both human and animals difficult because we all know how they should move, making it easy to recognize when it's wrong.

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My greatest challenge was working on "The Jungle Book" because I was actually working with Walt Disney. That's a pretty daunting task. My other favorite project was, "Toy Story2." I think that's because we crafted a marvelous story. The film could have been a lackluster sequel. Instead, Pixar made a masterpiece.


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Is there any specific training that you went though (or the flight crew) regarding dealing with situations?

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Considering animals and humans are so difficult to animate what would some advice (asides the 12 principles) be when animating such characters?


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Also how does Disney come up with the elaborate ideas for their movies ?

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Yes, we are trained to deal with medical emergencies, self defense, conflict resolution.


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It's all about observations. Shooting a lot of video reference

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Well, there's a wealth of stories out there. existing material and room for new ideas. Looking for stories is fairly easy. There's just so much stuff out there.


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Did you get free flights?

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What day to day software do you use now? Animate? Toon Boom? Other?


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What is the biggest hurdle you had to overcome in the workplace and how did you find the courage to tackle it?

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Yes, I was able to fly free domestically on all US airlines. Internationally, for a very small fee.


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Maya is all I use now

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Because animation takes so many people to create an animated film, one can get "lost in the crowd." It's difficult to stand out when there are so many great artists around you. You have to continually find ways to distinguish yourself from everyone else. What is it that is unique about you? What are your special skills or talents?


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Did you have a ton of people asking you for buddy passes?

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You only do 3d or you use maya for 2d animation?


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In another reply in the thread, Erik mentioned that you helped put the story together for the original Jungle Book. How often did you have a hand in the story as well as the animation?

Michael, are you the guy in the reverse cotton candy eating gif?

Really looking forward to the film guys!

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Yes, I have. People I went to school with who I don't even really talk to. Luckily for me, I NEVER advertised my career. I never posted my job on social media, or me in my uniforms. Unless you knew me personally, you would not know I was a flight attendant based on my social media presence. Partly, for that reason.


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It's all for 3d

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I was lucky to have been a part of the story team on The Jungle Book. Oddly enough it was a job I didn't want. I wanted to be an animator. However, once I got a taste of story I never wanted to give it up. Making an animated film is a team effort. I was lucky to have been part of Walt's guys. I don't regard my contribution as anything more special than the rest of our team.


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Did any of the other people have another bf / gf in each city you stay overnight in?

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Is there much difference between Maya and Max for animation?


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What is your favourite part of The Jungle Book?

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Yes, some people have 'friends' in cities. Especially flying regional, we go to the same cities alllllll the time. It would be very easy to have hoes in area codes.


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Just different controls mostly. But I haven't used max in a long time so I'm sure there's more to it

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Probably the stuff with Mowgli and Kaa. I guess because Vance Gerry and I came up with all the funny business. I also liked the scenes we did with Kaa and Sher Kahn. Really cool stuff.


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Did you pop the inflatable escape slide and flip the bird to everyone on the way out? One of my fave quittin stories

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Hi! Happy Saturday. I've always assumed the voice actors record their part first then the animators sync the animation to the voice. Is that correct?


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I totally love the sequences with Mowgli and Kaa! The "Trust in Me" sequence is fantastic!

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hahahah I've (jokingly) threatened to pop a slide wayyy before I knew I was leaving. Some days you really do feel that way!


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Yes, we always animate to audio

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Thanks, Eric. It was fun doing that stuff.


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Was there anything in particular that caused you to quit?

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But the storyboards come first so that the voice actors know the general direction and flow of the scene, right?


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Hey Floyd thanks for making the time to do this AMA!

Ill be honest with you I had not heard of you prior to this and after a quick google I've found you have a hand in a lot of my favorite Disney films. My question is do you think Artists such as yourself get enough credit for what you do?

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Working my ass off and then getting a check the following month that didnt reflect that lol.

It costs money just to go to work; For example. I just finished a 5 day trip. Most FA's carry a lunch box (including myself) but its almost impossible to pack food for 5 days. Maybe the first 2-3 days and snacks. But when you are doing flights back to back all day, youre only option is expensive airport food. THEN- you tip van/hotel drivers, who put your bags in the hotel shuttle.

It adds up!


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Exactly

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Thanks a lot. I've enjoyed doing this work throughout my career. Honestly, I don't think guys like me come into this business to gain credit or fame. You do this job because we love it. I hear this from all the men and women I've worked with over the years. Doing a great job is our compensation. Sure, we've gotta earn a living and for the most part we're paid well. However, it's never been about the fame or the money. We simply love this line of work.


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Do you get food on the flights?

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What did you do/use to practice animating, especially since the bio from your link stated that you had no formal training and you were able to meet someone who led you to this?


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How was Walt Disney's management style? Was he a "boss" or a leader?

Was he approachable to even the lower level employees?

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We can eat all the snacks on the plane lol.

Unfortunately, my airline did not provide crew meals for the longer flights. Which is actually really sad (another reasons I am leaving, some of these airlines simply dont care) So we just had to bet on someone in first class not wanting their food; we ate it for them :)


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I was given copied key poses to inbetween on a homemade desk. This was the entry level 2d position that got my foot in the door. always watch motion. How people walk, run etc. Whether live or on film. Sketches help as well to capture poses

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I would say, think of Walt Disney in much you'd think of Steve Jobs at Apple. Steve was the face of Apple. He was the visionary, the boss and the leader. Walt Disney was much the same. I would also add that unlike many bosses today, Walt was always approachable. And, I mean to anyone. It didn't matter how "high" or "low" you were. Disney treated everyone with respect. I think that's why the man was so admired by those who knew him. It would appear Walt Disney's toughest critics happen to be those who never even met him.


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That is sad. I'm sorry you guys have to do that.

I will definitely skip on my meals next time I fly.

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how do you feel about big-name movie actors doing voice work and taking voice actors' jobs?


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Growing up, did you always want to be an artist/animator or did you have other aspirations?

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That is really sweet. Thank you.

I wish (some of) the airlines had more compassion for their employees.


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It's a shame when studios only want the big name actors because it looks good on a poster. But they're in it to make money so I understand the business reason

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Yeah, I guess it's kinda crazy but I've always wanted to be an artist. I knew this even when I was a little kid. I wanted to be a musician but I knew I wasn't good enough. Anyway, I had other aspirations, but I settled on art. Not a bad choice.


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If you're in the US and you don't get reimbursed by your employer, those expenses are tax deductible. Keep all your receipts!

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How different is animating for games vs films (if at all)?


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Hello Floyd, you worked for two global pioneers: Walt Disney and Steve Jobs. In what ways were they alike and in what ways were they different?

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I did. Last year I kept every receipt. and I do mean EVERYTHING.

My income was so low, it wouldn't have made a difference.


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Game animation needs no anticipation for attacks or running. This allows it to be more responsive

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Well, they were two men from different generations so they were different in that way. However, they were the same in many other aspects. Both were highly confident and both knew exactly what they wanted. They were often called difficult but that's because they demanded perfection. In my book, there's nothing wrong with that.


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Did you have to pay for the room when you stay overnight? Does everybody get their own room or do you have to share?

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How would you recommend getting into the gaming industry? I'm more of a coder, but I would love to learn animation.

Also what's your favorite animated movie? Why?


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Who is your favorite character you've animated?

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No, the company pays for our rooms. Each crewmember has their own room.


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See previous answers

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The only Disney character I've ever officially animated was, Robin Hood. I've spent most of my time as a story artist and a writer. I still love animation, however.


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Did you ever hook up with any passengers?

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What are your thoughts on the shift from traditional animation to CGI that has taken place in major animated movies? Has it had much of an impact in the quality of the movies or the way studios approach them?


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Hey Mr. Norman. What are your thoughts regarding Disney for waiting so many years to finally decided to give their audiences an African American female cartoon character: Tiana?

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No, but I definitely gave some a good looking up and down hahah

If I gave you a full can or didn't charge for your alcoholic beverage, that was me hitting on you.


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IMO, I feel studios initially shifted to CG because it was something new that audiences were intrigued with. I believe they've continued with CG because they're more affordable to produce. Quality will always fluctuate whether it's 2d or CG depending on production time and level of talent

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Well, there's been much talk about this subject. I'm just glad that Disney finally got around to having a black princess. It's much the way we felt about a Chinese Princess when I was working on the film, "Mulan." Yes, sometimes it takes a while before Hollywood catches up with the rest of society. The good news is, it eventually happens. I'm delighted that Disney decided to give us, Tiana. I'm just sorry it took so long to become a reality.


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sheeeeeeeeeit, I've been give full cans before.

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My child has a degree in Animation - loves 2D best and is proficient on Maya. Great artist blah, blah, blah. Why can't she get a job? Is there a secret? You said you had a friend on the inside. Is that what it will take for the newbies?


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Did you like "The Princess and the Frog"? What do you think about having a sequel?

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oh hey cutie


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Knowing someone will always help, no matter what industry you're getting into. I was fortunate to meet someone. Nowadays you can meet professionals on Twitter, Instagram, LinkedIn etc to show your work. If it's good someone will take notice, connect with you and help you when you apply. But the bottom line is the work has to be good. You also need to be willing to learn. Being able to toss out pieces from your reel if suggested. 2d jobs are almost non-existent sadly, I'd focus on getting good in Maya

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Well, there's been much talk about this subject. I'm just glad that Disney finally got around to having a black princess. It's much the way we felt about a Chinese Princess when I was working on the film, "Mulan." Yes, sometimes it takes a while before Hollywood catches up with the rest of society. The good news is, it eventually happens. I'm delighted that Disney decided to give us, Tiana. I'm just sorry it took so long to become a reality.


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My last flight with my husband we were both given a full can. Maybe she wanted a threesome :D :D :D

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Thank you for the quick reply. She needs to beef up that Demo reel.


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hahahahha

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Makes all the difference in the world


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What about tomato juice? Every time I order tomato juice I get the full can, but not any other beverage. Is this a tomato juice policy?

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PoE seemed like it was a pretty spiritually intensive project. Did it come across that way to you? The animation in it is great, but to the point where it really feels alive.


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final juice?!

Well it depends, our orange juice came in a carton, so of course I couldn't give you the can.

Anything else, I'll gladly give you the can.

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I think a lot of people felt that way. It's an important story.


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What was the weirdest experience you've had so far?

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Hm... What are the types of positions aspiring 2D/3D animators should be looking at if they're interested in getting into game art?


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Two teenage girls making out on the plane and the mother of one of the girls was sitting right behind them.

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Game development has many disciplines. Concept art, modeling, rigging, animation, FX, level design, environments. It's important to pick one and get really good at it. General knowledge of each is only good for small studios. Everywhere else will want you to only do one.


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Catch any Mile High Club attempts?

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Thanks for the answer. I'm really only interested in working in a smaller environment and on personal development projects, so I'd better get cracking on those multiple disciplines...! Haha...


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Nah, I worked on 80 seater aircrafts so we can pretty much see what everyone is doing on the plane for the most part. I would see 2 people going in the bathroom easily. UNLESS.....they went in when me and the other FA are serving first class together :)

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Good idea! Good luck!


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tell the truth, are you in the mile high club?

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Hello :)

I have a few questions, if you don't mind.

  1. What do you prefer to work on: movies or games?
  2. What is one piece of tech (software or hardware) that has made a significant impact on your design/workload?
  3. The Witcher 3 or Dragon Age: Inquisition?

Thank you!

EDIT: Some spelling errors, etc.


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lmao! I'm not. I wouldn't do it in those bathrooms...they are gross!

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  1. I enjoy the creative input of games
  2. Learning Maya saved my career when everything transitioned to CG
  3. I'm not familiar with either but have heard great things about Witcher, I'm looking to get it

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Bathrooms? Pfft, that's what first class seats and repo flights are for.

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What is your ultimate advice to an aspiring animator?


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hahah true!

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If I had to do it all over today and just wanted to animate, I'd enroll in an online class. (AnimationMentor, iAnimate, Animschool etc) They're focused on animation alone, taught by professionals, you make great connections.


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What things would you recommend passengers don't do? I've heard the water/blankets are gross.

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you sound like a bit of a character, wanna beer?


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I personally would not drink the potable water from the aircraft. So the tea, coffee...I would avoid. The water isnt so bad but how often do you really think those tanks are cleaned?

Don't take a shit on the plane. PLEASE. sometimes i get it, you just have to go but damn, close the door behind you LOL.

And just be nice to your flight crew. Kindness goes SO far on an airplane ;)

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It's too early. Maybe cheerios :-)


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Just flew home from cancun to seattle with food poisoning last week. I think i took about 40 shits on that plane. Sorry about that.

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Walt would have had a beer.


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I hope you feel better. If you would have told me, I would have given you club soda and crackers.

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No doubt


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having to shit on a plane is my only fear about flying.

i spend like 20-30 mins just sitting on the toilet in the terminal to clear out.

pepto pre-flight if its greater than 2 hours.

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Is there rivalry between the character animators, the fx animators, the background animators, etc?


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I get it! Sometimes you just have to go. Just pack cottonelle wipes lol

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None whatsoever. We all depend on each other to make our own work look good


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What will you do now?

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So, which project was your favourite?


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I'll be working at a University! I worked in higher education prior.

I'm really excited. It's a small office, with minimal foot traffic. I need a break from people lol And I'm so excited about working 9-5. I woke up at 4am too many mornings to work 530 flights. ouch.

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For nostalgic reasons, my first project, The Prince of Egypt.


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Do you get free tuition? If so, any plans to take advantage of it?

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What do you think of the need of Higher education to get into digital arts related work? More and more people, be it for games or other media, start and learn by themselves, do you think a degree is that helpful for these fields of work?


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I believe so. I have orientation for the new position the first day. I believe there is a major discount on tuition, if not free.

Yes!! I will definitely take advantage if they have a program that fits & interests me. I'm hopeful they will.

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I can't speak for other disciplines, but for straight character animation, it comes down to what you can do. The degree is secondary. You can learn animation entirely on your own, make an awesome demo reel and land a job. It all depends on how well you animate.


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As a non morning person I am so sorry! What kind of work will you do at university? Hope it goes well for you and you enjoy it!

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Why aren't you working right now?!! get back to work slave.

Is that the office experience you get?


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Just an admin position. I have a college degree so I'm hoping to advance in a bigger role as the time comes.

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It can get busy at times, but not always. I haven't worked on Saturday in a long time


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Literally not 8 hours ago I was on reddit looking up ways to become a flight attendent.

What are the biggest pros and cons? Is it true what they say about a very slow starting pay?

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Do you do your own rigging, or you get everything ready for animation. Is there a rigging standard? What were your expectations before coming to animation, what were you right, and what we're you wrong about?


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Basic pros: free travel and flexible schedule Basic cons: pay, long hours, super early mornings

Yes, that is true about starting pay.

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Having only worked for large studios I've never had to do my own rigging. Departments are so specialized, they only want you to focus on one discipline.


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What is the most embarrassing thing to happen to you? To someone else that you saw happen?

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Now that maya is a part of Autodesk, do you have a look on others products of the firm? If yes in which way it helps you to do your works?


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Definitely having my pantyhose rip in the crouch area, and scared it was gonna run down my thigh. Thick thigh problems.

Also, my dress would pop open often lol I'm busty, so the placement of my ID under my dress would make it bulge hahaha (we hide our ID during flights for confidential reasons)

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Not really. It's all maya for the most part


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What kind of confidential reasons are there to hide your ID?

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Do you know of any free sites/video series for learning Maya? You know, something comprehensive and effective.


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weirdos that will get your name and find you on Facebook; it happens.

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I believe Autodesk offers a free student edition


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a/s/l?

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Tangled is outrageously good for 3DCG animation. It looks like it's been a long time since you did any 2D work, but I'd like to share a resource with you - the sakugabooru.


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lolz

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Thanks. I'll check it out


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Did you ever work with any male FAs?

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Animation student here.

1) How is the job market in the animation industry these days? I've heard some pretty grim things.

2) Do I need to go to CalArts or somewhere nearly as prestigious to be able to make a living in character animation?


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Often. I was the only girl on my crew many many times.

And no, not all male FA's are gay.

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There's a lot of ups and downs. Staff jobs can be difficult to land . It's mostly contract work. But if you're good, you can always find something. No, CalArts is not required, a good demo reel is


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Did you quit in a badass flamboyant way? How did your quitting work out? Anything hilarious or unexpected?

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Hi, you've done a lot of work that I have admired when I was young, Shark tale and Spyro especially!

I am currently studying animation (game and film) and love using 3DSmax and have been tempted to move over to Maya as I have heard most successful companies use Maya over max. I have been assured that there are jobs for max workers, but am unconvinced. Would learning Maya be beneficial?

Also, what do you think about the current speculation over the animators working conditions for 'Sausage Party'?

I hope you can answer :)


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nah, Just called sick for my last two trips! Sent an 'effective immediately' email. I still have to turn in my badge and manuals.

However, I know people who have called the morning before their last trip and said they aren't coming in. ever again.

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Thanks. I'd say Maya is much more common when looking for work. Long working hours happens a lot unfortunately. It's not until artists speak up that it gets any attention


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What is your best advice for someone who's scared of turbulence?

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Whaaaat?! You animated The Emperor's New Groove? Did you meet David Spade and John Goodman?


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Try to get a seat assignment near the front of the aircraft. Turbulence is always going to be worst in the back of the aircraft.

Remember being in grade school and sitting at the back of the bus?

If you can, take a Xanax. Or use something like lavender oil that will help you relax.

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I never did. You'd see them around the studio occasionally


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Isn't the centre of gravity (i.e. middle of the plane) the best place, not the front? I thought front and back would vacillate up and down relative to the CG, which should be relatively stable.

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Prince of Egypt is one of my favorite movies. Any helpful tips for an aspiring animator?


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I guess?! I don't know specifics lol just a suggestion. The average traveler does not fly in first class, so I would just suggest near the front of the cabin.

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Thanks! Check out my previous answers for aspiring animators


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Do you have any funny / interesting on the job stories to share?

If so, what are they?

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Do you ever read a script or know about the story in advance, or are you animating "blind"? Thank you for your work!


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Not on the aircraft, but yesterday we were headed back to the airport from the hotel. It was a minivan and my captain was sitting in the front sit.

Oddly enough, he spots cash on the highway. Like, alot of it. The van driver pulls over, REVERSES. The driver and my captain are literally on the highway picking up money hahaha

They get back in the van and count it....its $160 lol The van driver pocketed most of it. Amazingly enough, the other pilot told him he needed to turn the money into the police.

it was the weirdest thing ever

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For the sake of context in your work, you usually have the script beforehand


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What was your scariest experience as a flight attendant?

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When you were a kid, what were the things you liked to draw and what were the things you could never get right?

For me: I loved Super Heroes, Battle Scenes, Fantasy Genre.

I could never draw a horse that looked good for some reason. (I'm 40 and this came to my mind instantly.)


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First time I landed in DCA, lol you go right over the river and very close to the buildings! I still see people flinch as we are landing in DCA.

I've experienced pretty bad turbulence. Once its over, I'm always more scared to see what happen in the cabin and if any passengers were injured.

Also, seeing the Captain call from the Emergency Phone. It blinks a red light in the cabin. My heart dropped. He called back and said it was an accident. Fat fingers.

A:

I loved drawing Johnny Soko's Giant Robot! Drawing hands are still a challenge for me


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Did you have any near-crash/death experiences?

What's your favorite TV show?

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As a potential animator getting through school right now in a location that probably doesn't have the most career options for this line of work. Where would you say globally is a hot spot to go to ease a young paranoid mind?


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No, near death. But crazy turbulence! Ill never forget the time it was so bad, somehow there was a huge perfectly splatter glass of tomato juice on the ceiling LOL

Favorite TV show...probably Breaking Bad, The Wire, and can I say, Lost? ;)

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Los Angeles


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Two of those shows feature horrific plane accidents. Any correlation to why you quit your job?

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My second cousin animated the Chief in El Dorado and the old Pharaoh in Prince of Egypt so my mom tells me, who did you animate in these films and what do you find most difficult as an animator?


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Nah. I've never not felt safe on a plane. Pilots spend hours & hours & hours training. & simulation training.

And if I was that scared all the time, I wouldn't be able to function in my job.

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El Dorado I was on the Tulio team POE was Moses. As an assistant animator for both the most difficult thing was maintaining volumes, keeping the characters solid


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How much sex happens among the crew?

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Could we see your current demo reel? Also when making a demo reel how big of a role does the soundtrack to a demo reel play?


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not so much 'just sex' but alot of relationships. I posted further down that literally every girl in my initial class has, or is dating a pilot except those who were already married.

Alot of sex happens too tho


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I've recently started looking into becoming a FA- I know you quit and all but would you recommend it for other people? I've only flown a few times but it was fun, plus I like the idea of adventure. how did you apply? was it through an airline or through the airport? I'm going to keep researching but I'm just curious.

wish you the best!

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I'm currently watching The Emperor's New Groove so I love that you posted today! I've always thought this movie was so under-appreciated, and actually has some of my favorite character animation.

I know you animate to the voices, so I'm wondering the difference a good voice performance makes. As in, have there been certain performances that have provided you with more "inspiration" or were more rewarding to animate? I hope this question makes sense!


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It really is all about preference. What you want out of life, what you like to do, what you expect for your future, etc.

I have a college degree so I also would like to make a return on my investment lol

You apply directly through the airline. Feel free to PM me any questions. There is also a sub for flight attendants r/flightattendants that is semi active. Also, there is an extremely active facebook page called Flight Attendant Career Connection that can answer alot of questions.

Good luck! I don't regret my experience, at all.

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It's all about performance. When you hear a great dialogue your mind starts thinking of all kinds of cool ideas!


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Is it common/acceptable/allowed to tip FA's for beverage service? I tip in restaurants and bars, but it feels weird on a plane, as if I am silently calling you a "waitress in the sky" or something.

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do you think a character animator has to have CG animating skills in order to survive in the industry?


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Yes, we appreciate your tips! And it might get you another drink ;)

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Absolutely. Sadly, There's just not enough 2d to make a living


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I fly a LOT and always try to go out of my way to be nice to the flight attendants. Quick chat on the way in ask them about their day or route while trying not to be annoying and getting the hell out of the way to my seat quickly.

As someone who flys several times a week, what's something small I can do to help the FAs day go better?

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What role does a Script Supervisor play in animated films? And is it during development or post production?


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Thank you! We really do appreciate your kindness.

As far as what you can do, honestly; just continue to be respectful, kind and gracious :) Pick up any trash you have left behind.

Thank you again.

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I don't have an educated answer for that one, sorry


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What are the job requirements to be a flight attendant?

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You've had some amazing experiences from what I can tell! So far which ones have been your favorites and why? Are there any future projects you're excited about? :D

Also, I'm pretty good at doing voices, any idea where one can look for a job in that department?


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Usually customer service and a great attitude/personality to match.

However, these airlines know we are disposable so they really pick who they want.

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I love Prince of Egypt and Emperors New Groove. Nothing coming up that I can discuss yet. I'm not sure about voice acting, sorry


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Why did you quit?

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How useful have you found scripting in your career? I'm am animation student and I'm starting to get into scripting (mainly MEL, but everyone suggests python).


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I was over it! The money is really tough starting off. It gradually got better but its wide known thing that flight attendants are usually broke! This depends greatly on the airline, but I think all FA's would agree, the first year is the hardest.

Also, being gone all the time 13-15 days a month, was getting very old. It's very hard to have a social life, dating life and just do normal things when you are gone 5 days out of the week and a different schedule every month.

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They like to keep me away from scripting! Don't want to break anything. I don't know anything about it, sorry


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So can you tell us how much you made? Is it a salary or hourly based position? I know you mentioned that you were on a regional carrier but would a FA on say a 14 hour international flight be paid overtime?

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Are there any particular trends in animation that you're liking/disliking at the moment?

What's your take on the increase in mocap and how that intersects with work that animators would traditionally do?


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Its hourly. I'll try to break it down as easy as possible.

Starting off, my rate was about $17.50 and hour. We get $1.90 in per diem. So if I'm on a 4 day trip and im flying for 18 (flight hours).

I'll get $17.50 x 18 (flight hours) plus $1.90 x 96 hours (24 hours in a a day, 4 days away from home).

So for that trip, I make about $497. If I do that trip 4 times in a month, thats $2000. But then, take away union dues, taxes, etc......yea you get the point.

Most major airlines now start about $24-27 an hour. Naturally, regional airlines pay less. When I left, my pay rate was $22.10. Flight attendants who have been working for a long time at major airlines are making easily $45-55 an hour

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The short term contract work gets old. Studios hire 15 or more FX houses to do a film in just a couple months. I understand the need for mocap, especially for realistic humans. Gets stuff done so fast


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I heard that FAs are only paid when the aircraft doors are closed. Is that true?

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I don't know if you worked on it but I always found Eris hair in Sinbad to be beautifully animated. Is it because they put a lot of time and care for this part especially ?


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100%

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Exactly. As quoted in Toy Story 2, "you can't rush art!"


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That doesn't seem fair. I fly pretty frequently and the FAs work hard both before and after the aircraft doors are closed.

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You appear to be really passionate about your work but is there some part to it that you really don't like?


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absolutely, you are very correct. Another reason I was #overit.

Can't tell you how many times, I arrived for work (we have to report 45 prior anyway) , the flight is suddenly delayed and hour, but we still board the passengers....so I'm 1-2.5 hours in and I haven't made a dime.

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It's tough having to let assignments go due to schedule when you know you could've done more


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I know working the regionals are hard work. Did you ever apply to the major airlines?

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What were your thoughts of the Emporer's New Groove fiasco?

Are you working on any personal projects?

Who is your animation hero/inspiration?


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Yes, I did. I was unsuccessful but it didn't end my world.

Some people try over and over and over and over again.

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Stuff like that Groove fiasco happens all the time. That one just happened to have a film made about it. Nothing personal at the moment. one of my animation heros is Sergio Pablos. He's amazing


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What's something that pilots can do to make your job easier? I'm a future airline pilot so I'm curious what I can do in the future to help the FAs out.

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Hi Mr. Estrada! I'm an aspiring concept artist who was fortunate enough to meet one of the artists for Dreamworks (Sam Michlap), but I also love looking at animation and process. My question is: Do you feel that the animation industry has changed much over 19 years?


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Congrats!

And just be nice. If we are on a quick turn, offer to get us food since we are sometimes stuck behind cleaning the airplane and don't have time to get off.

Also, communicate. If we are on a long taxi, or the gate isnt ready, please make a PA and let the passengers know. Sometimes we are waiting and waiting, and I don't even know what's going on so of course, its only fair to inform the passengers, as well.

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Since moving to cg, not really. You land a job, hope for another, maybe get a staff position, then move on to the next. It can be difficult


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do you mean like ask you if you want a sandwich or something? Ive tried that before and the FA was too kind to accept my offer.

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Yes. I honestly am too. Many pilots ask do we want coffee. I rarely say yes.

But for that reason, I know they are thoughtful people.


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Can I just say, as one who tries to be similarly generous, more people need to learn to just say yes. I get it that there's times when you just aren't hungry/thirsty/Offerer-is-clearly-trying-to-get-in-your-pants/etc, but gracious acceptance is a gift in itself. It makes the world better.

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This is a hard lesson I learned this year. I was too proud to ask for help for a long time and realized how much better things are when you ask for help


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Did you ever have an incident that required police?

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Nope. The flight deck (captain and first officer) is pretty proactive and supportive. If sh#t goes down, they will always have your back.


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What do the pilots eat on long flights, do they pack lunches like you?

I am a highschooler in Skills Center Aviation Tech and I aspire to be a pilot. Thanks for doing this AMA its been interesting and especially helpful for me

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Yes, pilots pack lunches too. They often ask for snacks on the plane too lol we all get hungry.

You are welcome! Good luck.


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Were your peanuts salted or unsalted?

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Pretzels or cookies?


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Did you quit while overseas? Do you get miles?

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Absolutely not! lol I would have to buy a ticket back home.

No, we do not get miles.


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Aside from the pay, is there anything that would make you go back to the job?

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The flexibility. I averaged about 13-15 days off a month.

It was nothing for me to request (and receive) 7 days off in a row whenever I wanted it.

Generally, I was usually off about 3-4 days at at time. I would only request the longer times off when I wanted to do any personal, leisure travel.


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Did you find any joy from ramming the drink cart into the backs of shoulders while pushing it up the aisle ? I'd probably receive some satisfaction from it.

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no, this is my fear. And for that reason, I usually try to play an automated announcement that says, "please clear the aisle, as the drink cart is coming through."

Even above that, I watch and say "excuse me" as I'm coming through.