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MedicalI'm 45, and had my remaining [20] teeth pulled, and had 4 dental implants top and 4 bottom for dentures! AMA!

Jul 10th 2017 by 1968camaro • 38 Questions • 1467 Points

It was my last chance for teeth, 9 hours in the chair!

Proof.. The bill for new dentures an X-ray and the charges for the anesthesia. http://imgur.com/a/vvple

EDIT: WOW thanks for all of the questions!!! Since you are all so awesome I will admit to you, I wet my self while under sedation!!! [bring on the jokes]

EDIT2: THANKS AGAIN FOR THE REPLIES!! After 12 HOURS I gotta crash! I will answer any questions tomorrow.

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How are you able to afford this? Seems like it would knock out my life's savings.

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My SO has a good job... With out her I would be FUCKED!!!! It was a TON of cash!!!!


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Is she a high roller or just somebody with a good plan?

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YES!!!


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Make sure you don't have one of those "give eachother's gifts back" type breakups because that will be kind of painful.

And I'm assuming your SO is either making millions or you've been together for a long time. I can't imagine shelling out $50k for somebody I don't intend on dying with (or a child).

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OH that joke has already gone around!!! Ya she is the BEST!!!!


Q:

Wow that's intense, any particular reason that you'd like to divulge? Understandable if not.

My wife just spent 10 grand fixing her smile, worth it in the long run but man is this stuff expensive.

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Between genetics, bad habits, smoking and night grinding. The remaining were fixable but not stable.

It is a DUMP RUCK of cash but I gotta eat somehow! LOL I have an AWESOME SO, she helped!!!!


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All-on-4 has a better chance of succeeding in people with lower masticatory forces, as per the protocol developed by Dr. Palo Malo.

A 45-year old male with a history of bruxism is thus not an ideal candidate. I would suggest adding another implant on each quarter, i.e., an all-on-6; you seem to have enough bone for it.

You could do it with a local anesthetic as well, i.e., cheaper.

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Might you be a dentist?


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So I'm told...

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LOL something, something dental school.. I always give my guy shit for using those big words!! I give you credit, IDK how you work in the small spaces!!


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I take a magnesium-calcium-zinc combo pill, makes it easier to do them all at once for multiple health benefits.

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Good question.. This part SUX!! I had a cross bite and over bite anlso only had front teeth. Your chewing is a "muscle memory" you basically learn how to chew and over time it changes. this is why most people grind.

So, your answer. The process and placement of the new dentures makes my mouth "set back" to where it should be!! I have to force the jaw muscles to "lean" there new place!!! THIS gave me MIGRAINES and lots of pain. but it seems to be subsiding...

I ground out MANY crowns and even a Titanium post! I either would spit it [grin guard]out or pass out and forget.


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Yeah I got lucky, I had started to develop an abscess but it was small and treatable with some antibiotics and a good dentist. Didn't feel small though...

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Like a golf ball on fire????


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I'm hoping for a happy medium to push me into action :P

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Do it before it gets worse and the pain killers don't work!!


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I have good experiences with benzodiazepines regarding my fear of dentists. Get some and then go to your dentist.

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It depends on what the other drugs you might have to get during the procedures. Sometimes they don't mix well.


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At a dentist? You shouldn't normally get any drugs ...

But it doesn't hurt to .. tell the dentist.

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Yes, IDK what they are going in for. My situation they would not.


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So how much did you end up paying for everything including extraction and implants?

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IDK if you are asking rick or me..LOL I'm about 35K


Q:

ah, ok.

I wonder what the average cost would be for the 20 pulled teeth and just really nice dentures

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The dentures are about 5K EACH they are a bit different than a normal long saddle slip on set. Those move and wear on the gums, also the biting force and stability on those is not even close!

These will ALMOST "feel" like the OEM set. LOL


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Haha "the OEM set." Nice!

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TY!


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Wow... drilling an abscessed tooth with no anesthetic! I can't imagine the pain. He didn't even have any pain killers on hand? Like Vicodin or at least Tylenol?

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OMFG gimme 20 Mg of OXY for that!!!!


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He's right. The local probably wouldn't have given you any relief and made you feel a hell of a lot worse. Best to release the pus and then maybe inject some local if any at all. Glad you're ok!

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OHHHHHHHH DDDAMMMMMM OUCH!!!!!


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not quite understanding you... sooo you got 20 teeth pulled now you have none... so did you get dental implants or dentures?

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No teeth! The implants are in the bone [see the X-ray] and the dentures get screwed into them.


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ahhh yes i see that now. good for you though, now you wont have to worry about infections or anything ever again! good luck to ya sir.

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TY!! The implants can fail but that is about it.


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I feel like if I were getting that much hardware in my mouth I'd want the dentures secured by magnets and removable.

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They do make clip on dentures in this set up. They are not as secure.

The set that is in right now are the bridge for the implants. They need to be held in their original placement position while they heal and the bone grows into them, 3-4 months. Then I will get a final set that is fit to my now bare healed gums..


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I'm a bit confused. I assume you walk around with "teeth" right? Not just completely toothless while your gums heal? What do they use before you get your final set?

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Yes. They do not come out, they are screwed into the implants. I will use these until the gums heal and they can get a impression of the healed gums. Sometime around X-mas I will get the final set built around a titanium horse shoe.


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ah ok nice to know if the time ever comes, that I wouldn't be walking around showing my gums for 2 months. Are they uncomfortable? Does it look obvious when you talk or you smile that you have these in? How is eating things like biting into a hard sandwich or apples like?

Thanks for answering questions!

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Your lips fold over can't really see them.. LOL

I can't really feel the dentures, I know they are there I have no feeling any more, I can't tell if something is stuck to them.

They are a bit loose, I mean there is a space under them where the swelling was. So I tend to lisp a bit. That will not be the case in the final set.

You really can't tell I have them. The gum line is high enough I would have to fold my lip up to see anything.

Eating.. LOL I was told "nothing harder than scrambled eggs" for 3-5 months!!! All I ate is milkshakes, apple sauce, mashed potatoes, Mac n cheese.

Now I am 6 weeks [Thursday] and I have tried some hard things, and I mean biting into a burger and cautiously chewing. I am longing for a pizza, Apples are RIGHT OUT!!! I can't even imagine that yet..LOL It is about the hard pressure at the bottom of a bite, lettuce is tough because of the force to break it up.

I lost 12 pounds in 5 weeks.. LOL

Thanks for the questions! I had no idea this would be that popular!


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If you can afford it get the fully ceramic ones, they look way nicer.

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I would get theZirconium if I could afford it.


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Get cubic zirconium. You'd be a real pimp then.

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HELLS YESSSSSSS


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I'm looking at doing something similar soon(no implants at first) and I was quoted way less. Extraction cost a lot? How long did that part take?

Any regrets?

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It was about 20k For extractions and install implants.

How long to get the teeth out? Or the whole process?

The bottoms was about 1.5 hours. Then I had to go back and had the top removed and 8 implants that was about 4 hours.


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Yeah, I'm mostly worried about the extraction part. Sounds like the dentures themselves will be about $10k.

There's still that primal human fear of losing all your teeth that I'm trying to get my head around. Though I already have a tough time eating right now, so I'm warming up to it. I wasn't aware that eating would be so difficult for so long like you mentioned in another comment. I guess it's going to be lots of soylent and mashed potatoes for me.

Thanks for the response and I'd appreciate any advice.

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It was easy just take a nap... and you have no teeth!!! LOL I gotta laugh or I would be crying!!! I was a MESS the morning of don't get me wrong!!!!!!

People really take eating for granted!! I have to think about every bite and chew, I think it will fade in time.

Frozen grapes for inside mouth icing!! Get ice packs. Get it done it will get better!!!!


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I had root resorption so I had to have three teeth extracted and had to have 3 implants which was ten thousand fucking dollars. My dentist told me there was a high probability I would develop root resorption with other teeth and theres nothing anyone can do about it. Would you recommend I get them all pulled to save money?

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I don't have a DDS I front of my name.. I am sooo not qualified to answer.


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How painful were these 9 hours in the chair?

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I had to hire a mobile Anesthesiologist [2nd pic.] I was only under for 4 to pull and put in implants, the rest was fitting the dentures.

The pain was later and ALLOTT OF ICE AND DRUGS!!


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What did you exactly do that all of your teeth had to get removed? Were your teeth injured in any way? Did you have any illness that affected your teeth?

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They were decayed most broke, I didn't get them.

Just lack of care and bad genetics. Smoking did not help as well!!!


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Same here, I'm currently saving money for dentures. I want all mine ripped out, they're awful.

I was depressed for years and that's what lead me to not take care of myself.

My wife recently left me and as a result I started to take care of myself again and I lost 53lbs.

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It was not a fun or QUICK process!! But I finally have some kind of light at the end of the tunnel.

I can tell you it will change your self view and with the weight loss, the bitches will be knocking down the door!!!!

GOOD LUCK!!


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I'm thinking of having this done (minus extractions - already done) in about a month. Any advice?

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You have to deal with stitches and swollen gums UNDER the dentures!!

I was told no chewing for 3-4 months. To let the implants take.

Get ice packs, anything soft as scrambled eggs!!! Apple sauce, milkshakes.

Frozen grapes work REAL good for icing the inside of the mouth!

Buy a water pick for later and have salt [for rinsing] after.

Good luck!!


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Are you having issues with 'spurs' in your mouth? How do you deal with them? My boyfriend is 30, has top dentures and he will cut into his gums to get little pieces of bone and teeth out that are hurting him. Anything I can do to help him? Any way to keep his gums healthy? He likes to nom food without his dentures in...

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YES a few!!! They suck!!! The dentures are over my gums so the only thing I can do is rinse under them. They will work them selfs out it takes time.


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Thank you for this AMA. I'm 47 and my teeth/crowns are falling out. 4 this year. My dentists (I've seen many) tell me it's bad genes. I have sjogrens syndrome that causes tooth decay. My question for you. Do I invest in replacing crowns or go for dentures? I have 7 teeth on bottom all with cavities and 7 on top. It is so embarrassing. But I've been putting off my decision. Do you still have pain? Do they work well?

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Hello, WOW DAMMMM thats a ton of work! I had many canals and crowns. Thats crazy!

Even though it is a lot of money already spent before this started and the money to get here I would say YES!! I am 6 weeks in and just beginning to eat ANYTHING but i think it will be worth it. They throb and it is strange I need to get use to the entire thought of them. I think about every bite and chew. It's funny things you can eat even with bad teeth but with implants everything is new.

Good luck to you my friend!


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Not really a related question, but how come this is so super expensive? Not from the US here, but I had two molars removed, and got implants and a bridge put back in at 17. Costs were only abt 1500€ I believe, and insurance covered it all due to my age

I'm just curious about how there can be such a huge difference. I think in my country it would be 20K at most.

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Insurance covers almost NONE of this!! We get overcharged for weak insurance [and it about to get worse] But that is another conversation!!

I had some complications so that drove the cost up and I was not screwing around with other people.

I have had a ton of issues with many different dentists, I like this gut and trust him. That is worth a bit more to me.


Q:

What color is your 68 camaro?

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Semi metallic Electron Blue.. some day......


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How much did it cost you?

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About $35K


Q:

So since you got teeth pulled out... Do you have any memory of when they pulled out your wisdom teeth?

Sincerely, scared teen worrying about getting their wisdom teeth removed in the future

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Oh, yes I remember my wisdom extraction. I woke up in the middle!!!

Just do this... Have them ALLLLLL out at once! Get the pain over with! Its not that bad, just take the drugs and keep the holes clean. Dry socket BLOWS!!!


Q:

Do you think that today is October 10th, 2017?

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I just noticed that! LOL gimme a break I have been on drugs for the better part of 10 weeks!!! LOL


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How much did it cost for everything? Would it have been possible to get more implants but just too expensive?

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It will turn out [with the problems] to be about 35K.

The location and placement of them is VERRY detailed and tracked. They did a radial CT of my head then planned where they went, down to the millimeter!!!! There is only so much space and bone density to place them. If you lookout the X-ray, the tops are all within my front bone mass they do not go into my sinus. The placement is also NOT STRAIGHT the backs are on an Angle and there rest are "in the best place" . 8 was not a final number until they knew what the bone was like.

So basically it could be more but that is what "fit" to my situation.