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Crime / JusticeI’m Det. Greg Kading, expert on the multiple investigations into the murders of Tupac and Biggie. AMA!

Feb 21st 2018 by DetKading • 5 Questions • 278 Points

Self-driving cars may arrive at some point in the future, but that's not why we need a guaranteed income. The future is already here: the gig economy of Lyft drivers, part-time workers, and contract employees is exploding and income inequality hasn't been this bad since 1929. My story illustrates the unfairness in today's economy -- nearly half a billion dollars for three years worth of work. Today I work on how a guaranteed income for working people can rebalance the economy and reinvigorate the American Dream.

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Q:

Why did you decide to become an expert on this particular murder?

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I've heard it suggested that had a limit on presidential terms not become mandated at 2 at the most, President Eisenhower would have likely easily won a third term.

Would you say that was true?

Did Eisenhower think he could have won a third term had it been an option?


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Hey Chris! I have two questions for you:

1) What is your tl;dr version of how we can solve income inequality?

2) What is your most prized possession, something you've had before the FB days, that you have and will never get rid of under any circumstance?

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It was a natural progression...as the investigator assigned to look into Biggies murder, I was able to learn about both murders.


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And for the record, he did play alot of golf. How much? I don't know exactly, but if you want to go through his presidential appointment books, you can get an idea. All of his appointment books are contained in the Eisenhower Presidential Library and are open to the public. You can also check out a few of his appointment books using this link:

https://www.eisenhower.archives.gov/research/online_documents.html

Look for "presidential appointment books." Enjoy!

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  1. Sometimes the best solution is the simplest: a monthly stipend of $500 to every working American making less than $50k would lift 20 million people out of poverty overnight and stabilize the financial lives of 90 million people. We can afford this by bringing rates on the income of the 1% into line with the historical average of 50%. We know that when people get modest amounts of cash, they use it smartly, their kids stay in school longer, health outcomes improve, and they're happier. We have the power to rebalance our economic system and provide more opportunity to all -- we just have to develop the political will to do it.

  2. My books. I grew up an only child in North Carolina and books were my best friends. From about age 13 onward, I began to collect books to build a "library" of sorts. I carted them around with me from NC to boarding school, to Harvard, and later to California and now New York. They're my most prized possessions and the thing I won't ever be getting rid of.


Q:

Did Suge Knight had any knowledge of the possibility of Tupac getting shot?

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What is your favorite fact about Eisenhower that people don't know?


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with workers getting a reliable $500 a month

Did you mean to limit it to workers?
I thought the premise behind basic income was that everyone would get it. Kills stigma of 'welfare', and even the high earners have a stake in it.

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Not beforehand, but he knew who did it immediately after.


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Hi forava7-

I've been with the Eisenhower Foundation for eight years, and everyday I learn something new about Ike! One of my favorite facts, which many people don't know, is that Eisenhower declared his candidacy for President on June 4, 1952, just six short months before he was elected in November 1952. Can you imagine a six-month presidential campaign today?!

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There are a LOT of different ways to provide a guaranteed income. You could do a carbon fee and dividend, provide $1k a month to everyone including Bill Gates, provide it through quantitative easing, etc. I've spent the last couple of years talking to Americans who could benefit from a guaranteed income, and what I've heard consistently is that people want to work. (Psychologists consistently show that people want to be of purpose to their families and communities and are happier and healthy when they are.) I imagine a guaranteed income to be a supplement to wages and other benefits. But we have to expand the definition of work to encompass people who work but who are in jobs that are traditionally unpaid and ignored by the law, like people who take care of young children or the elderly or students. This would qualify an additional 30 million people for the expanded Earned Income Tax Credit I propose, providing a modest form of stability to many of our country’s hardest workers. For people who can't work, that's exactly what the social safety net (food stamps, housing vouchers, disability benefits, Social Security) is for.


Q:

Did he off the dude? And why did he go after Biggie?

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Would you say that Eisenhower's greatest accomplishment as President was the Interstate Highway System, ending the Korean War, signing the Civil Rights Bill of 1957, or balancing the budget three times?

Would Eisenhower be pretty disgusted with the state of the GOP today?


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Most critics of UBI don't understand that it doesn't cost $1000 to give someone $1000 and increase their taxes $400. The cost is $600. The true cost of UBI is the net transfer amount, and is calculated in the same way the cost of a negative income tax is calculated. It also requires subtracting out the programs no longer necessary or qualified for with higher incomes.

Read: https://works.bepress.com/widerquist/75/

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Suge had nothing to do with Tupac's murder. Biggie was retaliation.


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In my opinion, I would say the Interstate Highway System is his greatest accomplishment as President of the United States. The scale of the project and the massive transformation it allowed the United States to undergo is unprecedented. It is really hard to say though…everything you listed is impressive…not to mention NASA, effectively managing to keep the Cold War “cold,” purchasing enough of the Salk Polio vaccine to inoculate every American child… He managed to do a lot in eight years.

When I’m asked to guess as to what Eisenhower would think or how he would feel, I often refer to his many quotes. He once remarked to the Republican State Chairmen, "Some politician some years ago said that bad officials are elected by good voters who do not vote."

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To fund a guaranteed income of $500/month, we would need to close egregious tax loopholes and raise taxes on the one percent to be in line with their historical average of 50% on income OVER $250k. (So if you make $300k a year for instance, you are paying an additional $7,500.) I continually make the case that in the long term, this should serve the interests of the poor, middle-class, and rich alike because it will spur economic growth. A recent Roosevelt Institute study found that a guaranteed income of $500/month to all Americans could add a point every year to our total GDP, a huge increase. That's a level of growth that all Americans would likely welcome.


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No, I'm asking if he anything to do with the dude who killed Pac. Like did Suge have anything to do with his death?

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Thank you for doing this: Eisenhower was known as a General who did not believe that that former high ranking military personnel should run for office. Why do you think that his view changed between the 1948 and 1952 elections when he decided to run?


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Hi Chris, I think it's wonderful that you're thinking about how to fix inequality. I would love it if you could address the following concerns that people have about universal basic income.

  1. That in order to provide a meaningful amount of UBI to people, the cost for such a program would be out of this world.

  2. That providing universal public goods like free education and healthcare are cheaper and have higher returns on investment -- in addition to providing a greater sense of social cohesion.

  3. That UBI is being proposed as a fig leaf over the actual issue at hand causing inequality, which is inequality in ownership. Would it not be more beneficial to offer every citizen ownership in a fund of American companies?

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No. Orlando Anderson, Tupac's killer, was killed in an unrelated gang shootout about 18 months later. However, Suge put a green light against Orlando's entire gang, the Southside Crips.


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Hi Willaaay- I can't speak to what changed in Ike's mind, but I can tell you that he had no desire to run for public office. It was the American people, through a grassroots effort, that convinced him to run. He was overwhelmingly the people's choice, which resulted in him feeling like it was his civic duty. During the general election of 1952, Eisenhower won 442 electoral votes to Adlai Stevenson's 89 electoral votes.

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  1. The cost for $500/month to working adults making less than $50k would be just shy of $300bn per year. Let's be clear: that's a lot of money, even in the context of the federal budget. But it's half of what we spend on defense, and just a bit more than the Republican tax bill passed last December will cost. If we can afford tax cuts for corporations and the one percent, let's not pretend that we can't afford a boost to the bottom lines of working Americans who haven't seen a raise in decades.

  2. We need a better education system and smarter healthcare policy. But we also need to be clear-eyed about what works. We have poured more and more money into education and healthcare for decades and have seen only modest gains. But we have a LOT of evidence (which I detail in the book) that the EITC meaningfully improves health and education outcomes for kids. We want better educational and health outcomes, but the data suggests that the most effective way to get them might be through cash. Here's one study comparing the effect of EITC to pre-K investment: https://www.brookings.edu/opinions/this-policy-would-help-poor-kids-more-than-universal-pre-k-does/

  3. Some people argue for a sovereign wealth fund, which I think is a promising idea. Alaska has one, and it is no coincidence that Alaska has lower levels of income inequality than any state in the nation! The tricky thing though is the math: how much money and who gets it? The math is tricky if you want to get to a meaningful level and provide it to a broad base of people. And when people receive it, does it throw them off of other essential government benefits? The EITC is a proven framework that would provide a cash boost now, to the people who need it most, and be in supplement to existing benefits rather than come at their cost.


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Why didn't he go after Pac's killer?

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What is IKEducation?


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Do you think that a guaranteed income can erase years of racism, sexism, and classism in our economy?

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In the gang culture, it's not as easy as one might think to hunt down and kill an individual. You go after the gang, especially when multiple members of the gang were responsible. Orlando knew he was a target, which makes getting at him that much more difficult.


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Hi TLBDCO-

IKEducation is the Eisenhower Foundation's innovative K-12 program that serves thousands of students and teachers across Kansas, and beyond, both online and onsite. IKEducation provides not only historical lessons about Dwight D. Eisenhower’s unparalleled accomplishments, it also gives students and teachers insight into life in America during the twentieth century.

The mission of IKEducation is to provide every K-12 student, either online or onsite, with an innovative educational experience that enhances their understanding of Dwight D. Eisenhower, Supreme Allied Commander and 34th President of the United States.

We have lesson plans for elementary age, middle school age and high school age students. They can be found using this link:

http://www.eisenhowerfoundation.net/151/Lesson-Plans

I am proud to report that recently, one of our IKEducation lesson plans was featured in the Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/kidspost/heroic-dog-is-honored-75-years-after-saving-the-lives-of-us-soldiers/2018/01/12/c2e7d952-f176-11e7-b3bf-ab90a706e175_story.html?utm_term=.14dececd1b0c

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Nothing can erase the shameful history of racism, sexism and classism in our country. But a guaranteed income can be a step in the right direction to righting some of these wrongs. The expanded EITC for people making less than $50k that I propose in my book would disproportionately support the incomes of people of color and women. A guaranteed income by no means is a silver bullet here – we also need equal pay for equal work legislation, to support the #metoo movement, for our leaders to pass policies to address police brutality; but helping to stabilize the financial lives of people struggling to make ends meet will provide stability and opportunity immediately and directly in their lives.


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Ah man. I knew they started out as friends... But I was kinda hoping that things like "Hit 'em up" was just marketing for a moment there

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Why did the Eisenhower Foundation launch IKEducation?


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The beef was real, as was the war of words, however the media certainly helped fuel the fire.

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Hi again, TLBCO-

As the triumphs of World War II and the progress and prosperity of the 1950s become a distant memory for most Americans, today’s students are further removed from the period. Realizing the challenge of sharing this rich history with generations for whom Dwight D. Eisenhower’s lifetime is relatively unknown, the Eisenhower Foundation developed IKEducation.

Since launching in 2013, over 20,000 students and teachers have participated in IKEducation programming. Just last year, IKEducation increased K-12 onsite programming at the Eisenhower Presidential Library, Museum, and Boyhood Home by 28%, from 6,047 students and teachers during the 2015-16 academic year to 7,753 students and teachers during the 2016-17 academic year.

Obviously, you've heard of IKEducation. Can you tell me how you learned about it?


Q:

So how come Suge was never brought up on charges?

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Do school groups have to pay to participate in IKEducation?


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Due to the fact that the shooter is dead, and Suge's baby mama and co-conspirator cannot be forced to testify against him, it leaves the case un-prosecutable.

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No, IKEducation programming and admission to the Eisenhower Presidential Museum are free, thanks to the Eisenhower Foundation's generous donors. In addition, the Eisenhower Foundation actively seeks funding to help schools cover expenses associated with field trips to the Eisenhower Presidential Library, Museum and Boyhood Home in Abilene, Kansas.

We also have two programs, Ike's Field Trip Fund and the Dane G. Hansen Field Trip Program, that provide schools with much needed field trip funding. If you would like to help more schools visit the Eisenhower Presidential Campus in Abilene, please visit https://eisenhowerfoundation.net/616/Ikes-Field-Trip-Fund to make a donation.


Q:

Isn't he in jail right now? Didn't he kill someone with his car?

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How can people get involved in the Eisenhower Foundation?


Q:

Suge is in jail awaiting trial for running over and killing Terry Carter in Compton.

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Hi Colenecraig- I'm so glad you asked! As I mentioned earlier, the Eisenhower Presidential Library and Museum is a part of the National Archives and Records Administration (NARA). Through NARA, the federal government supports archival, curatorial and security staff, as well as maintenance at the Eisenhower Presidential campus. Exhibit updates, K-12 and public education programs, and community events, however, must be funded through the Eisenhower Foundation.

We're always looking for people to become Friends of the Eisenhower Foundation. Our Friends provide the critical support necessary for our world-class exhibits, programs and events. For more information, and to join the Friends group, use this link:

http://www.eisenhowerfoundation.net/154/Friends-of-the-Foundation


Q:

Has anyone come to you confessing to the crime? Or have you been led down false paths?

A:

Yes. We have confessions for both murders. However, there were A LOT of false paths over the years.


Q:

Who had the better rhymes?

A:

They had different styles IMO, so its hard to draw a comparison. Biggies flow was sick, but Pacs content was deeper


Q:

Are you still in touch with the families of Tupac and Biggie?

A:

Mopreme was on set during filming of Unsolved. And I stay in touch with Pac's cousin William Lesane. I speak to Voletta Wallace (Biggie's mother) occasionally.


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Do you think the murders are connected?

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Absolutely. If Tupac hadn't been killed, Biggie wouldn't have been, either.


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With the murders being so well-known and culturally important, was it hard to go into it without bias?

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Not at all. I had been conducting gang murder investigations for years. We always treated victims as victims. However, being high-profile celebrity murders brought new challenges.


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Was there any sort of LAPD cover-up from Det. Poole's initial investigation of the case?

A:

No. There were multiple inquiries into that theory by multiple agencies, including the FBI. No evidence was discovered to support Poole's theory. Even Poole eventually changed his position.


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Should I watched Unsolved?

A:

Yes. Over and over again.